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[Auriel]

(for missneverwell)

 

[MissNeverWell]

@Auriel , that made me laugh The common reference to a stomach was breadbasket, and for the longest time when a child, I really pictured a cane breadbasket in my tummy

@MissNeverWell I'm not sure what is synthetic about canola oil. To my knowledge, it is just pressed from canola (rapeseed) and that is just a crop like any other. Mind you, I do not trust it, and somehow it has infiltrated pretty much any sort of food that can remotely have an oil in it somehow. In Australia, it is not always listed as canola, but often 'vegetable' or 'blended oils' or such.

It has changed over time, back in the 1990's I'd have a sort of asthma reaction to foods cooked in it, and also if the seed got crushed while handling it. I don't seem to have those reactions now, but I still don't trust it as a foodstuff.

We had two brands that were a combination of sunflower and safflower, but even those brands now have canola in them, so I am back to butter, as it's the only canola free one I have found, when I have looked, anyway.

Well synthetic may be the wrong word, but what I meant is that there is no canola plant, as Sunkacola and other members point out on here, it is from rapeseed. The problem with canola, from what I've read, and I know there is a lot of misinformation and incomplete facts out there (I'm taking it from Science Direct, Nutrition and Food Grains), it was first produced in Canada in 1974 from genetically modified rapeseed oil to reduce the concentrations of erucic acid and glucosinolate. Canola oil has a sulfur atom in some fatty acid structures. It is considered by many experts as a healthy oil because of its unique fatty acid composition, tocopherols, phytosterols, polyphenols, linolenic acid (omega 3), oleic acid as well as low saturated fatty acid. My concern is how they process the oil to make it safe for consumption. Cold pressed canola oil contains higher levels of nutrients. The high level of linolenic acid makes ith highly sensitive to oxidation (rancidity), so manufacturers used to add hydrogen to reduce its level to enhance shelf life and make it more stable for frying, which created trans-fatty acids. So they stopped hydrogenating canola oil and used other means to block high production of linolenic acid. When used for shelf food, manufacturers blend in a synthetic antioxidant, TBHQ, or natural antioxidants such as rosemary or tocopherols. The degradation of linolenic acid during frying tends to produce a painty, fishy after taste. Whenever I consulted dieticians, nutritionists and other healthcare professionals, the consistent message to me has been that canola oil and sunflower oil is unhealthy.

 

[Badger]

Hi, no I've not thought about a holistic practitioner, I'll have a look online. I'll also try to be mindful of my left shoulder, I have a habit of holding my right shoulder up since a neck injury. The inner left bicep pain began a few years ago after empty-handed bicep curls. The front of the left shoulder flared up around the same time from empty-handed chest presses. It was only a few reps for a few days, so very disheartening.

 

[JayCS]

@Badger: Again, youtube offers a plentitude of treatments for bicep muscle pain.
These will also incorporate the likely shoulder @sunkacola suggested and posture, as well as other causes like back, elbow etc.
Gentle stretches and also acupressure, trigger pointing etc. work far better for me than topicals,

but like sunkacola, arnica (esp. as semi-homeopathic Traumeel cream) works best for me to alleviate the inflammation.

Long term muscle strain like holding a phone or overhead work is usually difficult for me even without acute pain, but has got better.
Either I sit with that arm supported, usually me on the carpet, elbow on sofa, or like @Auriel ear plugs or preferably headphones.

 

[Badger]

I'll have a look at Traumeel cream, that sounds interesting. I'll check youtube for bicep pain, unfortunately videos I followed in the past with acupressure for neck pain, headaches didn't help. but I must have been doing them wrong or am too sensitive. Resting my arms on a cushion can help with cleaning teeth or using my mobile.

 

[JayCS]

I like your perspective of the beauty and vital role in all kinds of weather, especially wind - high winds frighten me and make me physically tense, particularly my neck.

Yeah, I'm quite enjoying the wind at the moment, need to watch out it doesn't kill me, not via tension at all, the blowing somehow "drains" or injures skin and muscles, regardless of temperature. OK if I watch from the windshade and only move around sometimes.
High winds frightening reminds me of overcoming my fear of flying in a plane by running "with" taking off, hypering myself to go with the flow, re-imag(in)ing anxiety as excitement. Problem is we, or at least I, don't tolerate positive excitement well either, but better than negative.
For physical tenseness, progressive muscle relaxation for me is the best relaxation form (and GABA for relaxing muscles).

 

[JayCS]

acupressure for neck pain, headaches didn't help. but I must have been doing them wrong or am too sensitive

Hmm, acupressure definitely doesn't always work for me. Sometimes trigger pointing or stretching is better.

I can well imagine it not working for every neck- or headache.

For neck it's definitely stretches that helps me most. I strained my neck once in the summer and didn't work on it much for a 2 weeks, cos it didn't bother me too much, but when I had my big vertigo attack and they didn't find anything I found it might have been from that, did gentle neck stretches every hour and got it down in 3 days. Same over a year ago where my manual therapist worked continually on my neck for >5' every session and it went on, till it turned out that her cryotherapy was making it worse, and without that stretching alone was better.

I guess we can do acupressure "wrong" (tho it still shouldn't worsen), but often there are many points to try for one symptom, if something doesn't work a bit pretty much immediately (inside of hours) I go on to the next video, by the fifth or eighth I usually find something.
Sometimes a point just has to be held, similar to trigger points, sometimes massaged clockwise plus sometimes anti-clockwise. I try this out while doing other things like waiting or listening.

 

[JayCS]

Resting my arms on a cushion can help with cleaning teeth or using my mobile.

I've only recently realized shaving with my elbows resting helps. But it remains one of my worst chores, and I often skip it, which of course makes the strain much worse.... Best then in 3 minute stints.

 

[JayCS]

what I meant is that there is no canola plant, as Sunkacola and other members point out on here, it is from rapeseed.

Well, this cultivar of rapeseed is a plant that has been given the new name, because it is not only edible, but healthy.
All the plants we eat are cultivars of other plants.

The problem with canola, from what I've read, and I know there is a lot of misinformation and incomplete facts out there

Misinformation on social media I think is just cos it's complex. And incomplete will always be the case - but I'm all for trying to complete it and get down to finding agreement or a point where it's just about opinions.

(I'm taking it from Science Direct, Nutrition and Food Grains),

A collection of snippets from a variety of science sources, which are unanimous in their praise of canola, "ideal", "very healthy", "the most healthy", "Many dietitians believe that canola oil could be considered the healthiest edible oil."

When used for shelf food, manufacturers blend in a synthetic antioxidant, TBHQ, or natural antioxidants such as rosemary or tocopherols.

Good to avoid TBHQ as a food additive, wheresoever; rosemary and tocopherols (vitamin E) are great additives.

The degradation of linolenic acid during frying tends to produce a painty, fishy after taste.

Taste, not health, quoted as a reason for developing further cultivars of the canola-form of rapeseed - no problem.

There are other pages which delve into the problems more directly, like hexane for extraction vs. cold pressed, trans-fats which are roughly the same as in other oils, very low level.
Bottom line is to try to buy only buy “cold-pressed,” “unrefined,” “virgin,” and only from reputable brand.

Whenever I consulted dieticians, nutritionists and other healthcare professionals, the consistent message to me has been that canola oil and sunflower oil is unhealthy.

But why, and were they praps misinformed...? I think that it's only the comparatively high amount of omega 6, double that of omega 3, whilst it should be less. Whilst Bruce Hoffman, a functional doc I very much respect, stresses omega 6 is also important. Just there's already too much of it in the "typical" American diet, the ratio is 15 to 1. But for people that generally eat healthy, a bit more omega 6 is OK, and it's important to get lots of omega 3. Too much omega 6 would cause inflammation, so it's eating all the really unhealthy stuff that does so, pointing specifically to canola is eyewashing.
On the other hand Hoffman, recommends cooking with things like coconut oil. This would fit to me having thought that cooking and frying with canola is a problem (volatile unsaturated fats), but looking this up, the others are actually much worse, like corn, soy and sunflower.
Olive oil has less unsaturated fats, more saturated, so seems better for frying. But actually modern research has been showing that saturated fats aren't that bad after all, it's processed food that's worst.

Varying good quality oils with little processing will be the best solution, but canola can be among them, as far as I can see.
Like olive oil is a good part of the Mediterranean diet, canola oil is part of the Nordic diet counterpart, both good, I do both.
Eating food with fried with re-heated oil will be the worst choice.

And just looking at this one thing is begging the question of a balanced healthy diet with mainly unprocessed food.

 

[JayCS]

@JayCS GET BETTER SOON (I want the dr's and test results to hurry up and find out what's wrong with you, to make you better)

Thanks! (Jerked this over from the other thread, seems I haven't updated properly...)

Hmm, onco put me thru a double contrast CT and found .... "sorry" he said .... absolutely nothing.

Ironically the contrast (the excipients the onco suspects) caused over a week of nausea, with severe vertigo and vomiting on day #4 after, which reminds of the vertigo attack that sent me to hospital for a week - 2 days after a very painful exam.
Then blood pressure was a major suspect, now it was normal - I think this is a mast cell reaction I have to live with, or praps try taking lower dose antihistamine than previously to take the brunt off it.

So no longer anything to wait for (after 9 months....) .... back to my own drawing board....
Continuing with LD N, then when that's plateaued as high as I can get it creatine, then guaifenesin, inspired by @JamieMarc and by not expecting LD N, and nothing else left on my list.

 

[Auriel]

Resting my arms on a cushion can help with cleaning teeth or using my mobile.

I bought an electric one badger made my life easier (some of them are ridiculously expensive, for the price of some, I'd want it to make me breakfast and sing to me every morning! ) but it is easier (repetition movement causes me issues )

 

[JayCS]

OK, back to the 1st How Are You Today? thread, with 39 pages, rather than 2...

I had a 90' tooth cleaning this morning. I mean I was only lying there, even remembered to twist stretch, take a break, curl up 2 or 3x - strange how something that hardly hurts causes such drastic Ache/pain all day, hope it's gone by tomorrow.
But what progress: 1 or 2 years ago it took me many weeks to recover from it.
But I'm not sure what about it causes that much Ache/pain (up to 4-5 from 1-2 normal) and feeling so unwell (down from 90% to 60%). My jaw and face are (almost) fine.... It must be causing my body pain. Which reminds me: she does put a mild anaesthetic gel on my gums, and I know from other tooth things that it hurts my system just as much even if I don't feel pain during it.
The other cause might be that I don't tolerate something she uses, but I spose it's the anaesthetic that's most likely. So without next time, to see?? I know that the ultrasound cleaning used to be really painful to me, and that direct pain will trigger a system Ache/pain too, so I spose it's that, and not an intolerance (which would mean more histaminey symptoms).

 

[Auriel]

Well done Jay, that got confusing for a while

 

[Auriel]

Hurting (I'm hurting, need hugs) someone in in my life is stressing me out making my fibro worse, (can't get them out of my life cos connected to my property,) they've been breaking laws and rules. (but if I could get them from me/me from them I would) hurting, hurting (my legs are VERY bad) yeah like I said hurting

 

[JayCS]

(I'm hurting, need hugs)

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