Tiny sores

[SpoonieWarrior]

During a flare does anyone here get any tiny little sores in random spots that itch and then burn?

 

[BlueBells]

Hi @SpoonieWarrior

Welcome to the forums. There'll be others along sooner or later to say hi.

The only rashes similar to what you describe I believe, for me, are a food allergy. I haven't figured what yet, but I generally get a rash along the breastbone area. I'm finding things like hand sanitiser and hand cream helps settle it down.

Once again, Welcome

 

[sunkacola]

Greetings, @SpoonieWarrior , and welcome to the forum.
I recommend that you see your doctor as soon as possible about these tiny sores.
It is very tempting for those of us with fibromyalgia to attribute everything that comes up in our bodies to the fibro (I am guilty of this myself) but anything that is new or that you have not consulted with your doctor about needs to be reported to your doctor and discussed. It could be a reaction to a medication, an allergy, or a symptom of something else, and needs treatment.

 

[SpoonieWarrior]

I also have Celiac Disease along with several other autoimmune issues. The next time it happens I'll try to get in to see my dermatologist. Thanks for the input. Xo

 

[BlueBells]

I also have Celiac Disease along with several other autoimmune issues. The next time it happens I'll try to get in to see my dermatologist. Thanks for the input. Xo

Hi @SpoonieWarrior

Just a thought, if the sores don't hang around for long, and might be gone before your appointment, take some photos. and maybe also ask a chemist. They could offer advice, but if they have any doubts, will always tell you to consult a doctor anyway

 

[JayCS]

During a flare does anyone here get any tiny little sores in random spots that itch and then burn?

They can't be inflamed nerve "endings", can they??

 

[sunkacola]

I don't believe that our nervous systems have "endings" that reach the skin and can become inflamed sores.

 

[BlueBells]

I don't believe that our nervous systems have "endings" that reach the skin and can become inflamed sores.

Hi @sunkacola @JayCS @SpoonieWarrior

Many years ago I had a very itchy rash that would disappear and immediately reappear in another spot, continually for a few weeks, and lasting a few days in each area.

The doctor basically brushed it off with an incorrect diagnosis, without actually looking at it, (glance, not look) and one day my sister dragged me off to her chemist. Immediately diagnosed as histamines.

He explained that an insect bite or such will cause the body's histamines to control the attack. On rare occasions, the body gets a bit over reactive, and 'attacks' random spots, hence itchy, red rashy patches.

Was cleared in a day or two with over-the-counter anti-histamines.

 

[JayCS]

I don't believe that our nervous systems have "endings" that reach the skin and can become inflamed sores.

Wasn't quite sure, but looking it up, there is actually: "Skin neurogenic inflammation", e.g. Choi & Di Nardo, 2018.

"The epidermis closely interacts with nerve endings, and both epidermis and nerves produce substances for mutual sustenance." "The activation of MrgprX1 degranulates mast cells to communicate with sensory nerve and cutaneous cells for developing neurogenic inflammation." "We are finally starting to understand the intricate connections between the skin neurons and resident skin cells and how their interaction can be key to controlling inflammation and from there the pathogenesis of diseases like atopic dermatitis, psoriasis, and rosacea."

My skin intolerance of things like water is a kind of subliminal atopic dermatitis, but without visible rash. And when I didn't have it under control, it seemed to be an interaction of skin, rib muscle and finally nerve problems.

Now reading above excerpts, the mast cells between the nerve endings and the skin fits very well to my MCAS, mast cell activation syndrome.

Having so many issues, I sometimes forget the details and have to look them up again.

 

[JayCS]

tiny little sores in random spots that itch and then burn

insect bite or such will cause the body's histamines to control the attack. On rare occasions, the body gets a bit over reactive, and 'attacks' random spots, hence itchy, red rashy patches.

Having MCAS, it wasn't at all rare this summer when I got tiniest insect bites for them to bloat up after 2-3 days and if they got more than 2 or 3 my whole system went into a histamine flare (as ever without visible skin reactions). Antihistamines normally help others, didn't me, but my own type of histamine reduction using GABA/serotonin and cold water did.

But also treating each spot locally with an essential oil for insect bites as soon as I felt the bite helped keep the reaction down as well as preventing by treating my skin before with similar.
So maybe it's possible to calm each spot with something else, if an antihistamine gel doesn't work, like in my case.

So again, this overreactivity would be the mast cells, between nerve endings and skin, see my previous post.

Mast cells don't just release histamine, they release 200 other substances, so the reactions are not easily predictable and will vary from person to person and time to time.

Mast cell activation syndrome isn't autoimmune, but an immune system overreaction, and someone with autoimmune conditions might well also have bits of this too.

 

[sunkacola]

Hi @sunkacola @JayCS @SpoonieWarrior

Many years ago I had a very itchy rash that would disappear and immediately reappear in another spot, continually for a few weeks, and lasting a few days in each area.

The doctor basically brushed it off with an incorrect diagnosis, without actually looking at it, (glance, not look) and one day my sister dragged me off to her chemist. Immediately diagnosed as histamines.

He explained that an insect bite or such will cause the body's histamines to control the attack. On rare occasions, the body gets a bit over reactive, and 'attacks' random spots, hence itchy, red rashy patches.

Was cleared in a day or two with over-the-counter anti-histamines.

Very interesting, BlueBells, and I never heard of this before but believe I have experienced it. Thanks for the info.

 

[scottwilley91]

The itchy sores you experience during fibromyalgia flares could be related to histamine or mast cell overreaction, especially given your other autoimmune conditions.

Seeing a dermatologist at Meta Dermatology may help provide relief and get to the root cause. Tracking this with photos could also be useful. Wishing you the best in finding a solution. Let us know if you have any updates.