Bunni58

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the list goes on. It's really a "no-brainer" at this point, although
I'm not sure if you caught my point: I was wondering if you've checked for yourself if it might also be mast cell activation syndrome, MCAS.
Cos that has multiple chemical sensitivities too.
But additionally allergy type / histamine type intolerance reactions of the outer and "inner" skins to these, often to foods and meds too.
But those you've listed don't sound like that.
A sign might be if an OTC antihistamine helps.
I have MCAS, so have 100s of triggers I have to avoid. Docs for MCAS are only slightly easier to find than for MCS. But I don't get or need any help with it, cos there are many meds for it, but meds usually don't help me.
 
Because ME/CFS & COVID have the same symtoms we have been lucky to learn more about ME/CFS. However, I also learned that the money we were receiving has been cut back again according to a post I received.
I think you mean (certain types of) Long Covid. And it's true, quite a lot of ME/CFS people are seeing more trials, more money and more results due to connections, see Cort Johnson on the healthrising blog, who is very optimistic about research increasing now. The NIH ME/CFS annual conference also just referred to these connections. There has been a cutback in research money in one area, but there have also been quite a lot of areas this year starting up new.
I’ve always assumed that somehow both FM & CFS go together, is it true?
I think the point is: looking over that small fence can help us combat symptoms, even if the two might not be that similar. If someone's fibro comes with a great deal of fatigue and esp. post exertional malaise, like mine, or if someone's ME/CFS comes with a good deal of pain.

I was surprised the other day to see or hear someone in the know (I think again Cort Johnson) say that 70% of people with ME/CFS "have fibromyalgia" too. My impression from the forums is more like sunkacola's that the co-morbidity/overlap is less. But our impressions can be faulty, just as research can.
A review of 21 studies by Ramírez-Morales et al. from 2022 found a clinical overlap (of symptoms) in 47.3% between ME (as they call it) and fibro. Most studies used the 1990 ACR fibro criteria, whilst more modern studies using the 2016 ACR fibro criteria would probably provide for even more overlap. But as they say: overlap is association which suggests comparing might be helpful, but it doesn't prove it really works similarly. ("Some authors consider these two syndromes as different illnesses with separate physio-pathological mechanisms.") (Quite a few study text snippets on sciencedirect. Study quoted on meresearch)

cfsselfhelp think "Research suggests that about two thirds of people diagnosed with ME/CFS also meet the diagnostic criteria for fibromyalgia, and vice versa. Often the diagnosis made first depends on which medical specialist is consulted. A primary care physician might spot ME/CFS, while a rheumatologist may be more likely to diagnose fibromyalgia."
ammes think "The most common overlapping condition with ME/CFS is fibromyalgia. In ME/CFS dominant patients, the fibromyalgia pain is not constant, but tends to appear when there is an additional injury or infection, such as an accident, a viral infection, or a surgical procedure."

An example how looking at the co-morbidities can help is for instance me seeing that LD N is being used more and more in ME/CFS, fibro and post vac and other types of Long CoV. That helped convince me to try it despite hearing of side effects, and find out that it seems harmless for me and was immediately and has for 11 weeks been very helpful for my jab-triggered exhaustibility.
 
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Yes, I made a mistake, you are right that money is only being cut from certain types of long Covid. I know of Cort Johnson & I have belonged to his blog for years. Although he has ME/CFS he devotes his all to finding help & hopefully a cure for FM/CFS/ME.
I have remembered that my MD doctor (who learned about fibro) found that chronic fatigue overlapped with my fibro.
You have given me a lot of information that I will research & use. I’m used to seeing percentages from Cort.
I was especially interest in NLD & after checking I found that it may help me & I’ll check with my doctor.
Thanks for using your time & energy to help me.
I haven’t used a computer in many years & only have an iPad. Since I’ve been on the forum my iPad has slowed to a snails pace. This morning I called Apple & found out that, (my words)..I don’t have the space to save all the information I send or receive). I am sorry to cut out so quickly & ask your forgiveness. Although it’s been a short time it is nice knowing you.
 
surprised ... 70% of people with ME/CFS "have fibromyalgia" too
cfsselfhelp: "Research suggests that about two thirds of people diagnosed with ME/CFS also meet the diagnostic criteria for fibromyalgia, and vice versa."
Well, I'm just listening to one of the ME talks from day 2 on demand. And a top researcher, Benjamin Natelson, says FM is "10x" as common as ME (3% vs 0.4%). That explains why it's easier to say how many with ME have FM too, and proves "vice versa" wrong cos even if 100% of people with ME had FM, that'd only be 10%. He says 37% of their CFS patients had co-morbid FM and 20% of someone's else's FM patients had CFS (which begs above 10% logic). But there are also a lot of differences, like substance P, antidepressants sometimes working for FM, not for CFS.
Natelson's group compared ME/CFS patients without and with FM to try to distinguish subgroups of ME/CFS. The mixed group had very different sleep problems. Serotonin is usually too little in FM and too much in ME/CFS. (Prolactin is a biomarker for serotonic activity, good for me to know, altho I can control my serotonin with GABA.) Also interesting: during submaximal exercise, the mixed group had higher "cardiac work" despite equivalent workload (relative to their condition/fitness), i.e. more blood volume per beat.

A very interesting conclusion was that "'pure' ME/CFS may be a different illness from ME/CFS with other co-morbid unexplained illnesses (they combined with MCS too), so the whole might be "more" (different to) the sum of its parts, ME/CFS plus FM is not just these two together, but something different. Not proven, but possible.
Also just interesting considering subgroups for ME/CFS, something I've been thinking all along for FM cos of its high variety.
Instead of thinking "causes" he says biomarkers are the future - I think that's related to thinking subgroups are the future.
They are looking for further ME/CFS patients who can be off brain active meds for 9 days, at painandfatigue com.
 
only have an iPad. Since I’ve been on the forum my iPad has slowed to a snails pace. This morning I called Apple & found out that, (my words)..I don’t have the space to save all the information I send or receive).
You can get more storage space put onto your iPad. Or, you can get an external hard drive for not very much money and put all of the things you want to store onto that, which then will not slow down your iPad speed. If one of your relatives would take your iPad to the Apple store, they can do all of that for you and it's easy to use an external hard drive. You'd have it plugged into your iPad and then just save things to it instead of y our iPad's hard drive using the exact same method, just putting it in a different place. Might be worth asking your relatives to help with this.
 
Thanks a million, I’ll do more research with the info. you gave me. I do feel that we are closer to some answers from all the research people who have taken an interest in all of problems. I’ll keep on praying!
 
Thanks for your info. & I’m sorry to say my family won’t help me. Not because they don’t care or love me but they both have very busy lives just working. My granddaughter has bipolar, works full time, takes care of her kids, does all the household chores, grocery shops, etc. She has told me not to bother her with more questions about my iPad as she doesn’t have time for that. My son doesn’t know beans about a computer or iPad & he also works seven days a week to pay bills, etc. Just so you know, he is 64, working 2 labor jobs that are very tiring, helping me sometimes & battling the following.
He wasn’t feeling well & it ended up in the hospital with bacterial pneumonia. They did tests & found he had blood clots all through his body. They put him on blood thinners (new ones, he couldn’t afford) & then his personal doctor put him on Coumadin that he must take the rest of his life. His boss is worried because if he gets injured at work he may have bleeding problems. To make things worse he took the Johnson & Johnson one shot for Covid & his personal doctor told him that the shot caused blood clots.
I am extremely grateful that they help me & can‘t ask them to do more, per her request.
Again, thanks for all the help you gave me about my illnesses!
Please go ahead with the deletion tomorrow.
 
I need to be delete from your files so my iPad will hopefully go back to normal & speed up instead of being slow as a snail.
 
I need to be delete from your files so my iPad will hopefully go back to normal & speed up instead of being slow as a snail.
Hmm, sorry: the files that need to be deleted are on your iPad, not on the web.

Someone locally needs to do this for you. As your family can't: someone else you know, or in a computer shop, or in some kind of helpful institution like church?
 
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Thanks so much for your information!
I’m staring at my iPad wondering how to fix it & I hear my granddaughter & her son talking. She didn’t work today as he had a dentist appt. Since she had time she fixed it for me.
Now I can continue with the Forum!
 
Sunkacola.. If you can read the message I received today & my reply to JayCS, it will explain that I can still
continue with the forum. I’m truly sorry for lacking technical jargon.
 
It has been a very trying day & my brain fog (feels like very dense cotton balls). Hopefully I’ll post tomorrow.
 
Sunkacola.. If you can read the message I received today & my reply to JayCS, it will explain that I can still
continue with the forum. I’m truly sorry for lacking technical jargon.
Yes, I can read your posts. If you can see them on the forum page, then we can also, and so can anyone else in the entire world who looks at this page online, as this is an open and world-wide forum.

I am telling you this because since you are not super savvy with how computers and the internet work, you need to remember that anything you post here can be read by anyone any time. So you don't want to post anything too personal, or anything that you wouldn't want the whole world to know, and of course you want to keep your identity private.

Anything online is only online and is stored in online computers that have nothing to do with your iPad.

If you want to store some information and do not have room for it on the iPad, you can simply email that file to yourself. It will then be in your email account, which again is stored in giant online computers, NOT in your own personal computer or iPad. That way, you can store anything you want to and access it easily any time by just opening up the email.

If you need more space on your iPad, then that has to be done, as I said, with either an external hard drive or else by adding more space on the device itself, which can be done with some devices. This can easily be done at an Apple store anywhere. Your granddaughter or a friend or anyone can just drop off the iPad at the Apple store on their way to somewhere and pick it up later. It doesn't take a lot of time or effort on anyone's part.
 
Hi @Bunni 58

I've just been browsing through some of your posts, so interesting.

It's good you have your iPad sorted out now.

You do know you are most welcome to comment on any of the threads/conversations that may interest you? It would be good to see you on some of them.

I hope your day is going well 🤗 🤗 🤗 🤗
 
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